A Smoker's Tax for Fat People

I used to be fat. Solidly in the CDC's obese category at 255 lbs., I last year embarked on a serious diet and exercise routine to ditch the excess weight, and now I'm down to a very normal and healthy 175-180, depending on the day. I look so different that I have been asked by 4 different people if I have cancer. I don't, but that just kills me (no pun intended) - even if I did, that's just NOT something you come out and ask someone.

In any case, I often get the opportunity to explain to people how I lost so much weight and have been able to keep it off. The whole method is explained in excrutiating detail here, but certainly the most important change for me was a very simple dietary modification - I stopped drinking non-diet soda.

I used to consume a couple cans of soda a day, which apparently isn't that far from normal - the average American drinks 35 gallons of non-diet soda a year (just over 1 can per day). And if some people are drinking no non-diet soda (like the new me), an equal number of people are drinking a lot more than 35 gallons of the stuff.

Let's run through a simple calculation. 35 gallons converts to 4480 fluid ounces, which equals 373.3 twelve-ounce cans of soda. For our purposes, let's assume each of these cans are Moutain Dew (my personal favorite), at 170 calories a piece. Some sodas have more calories per ounce, some slightly less, but we'll use 170 for our example. That comes out to 63467 calories for the year. Now, for every 3500 calories one consumes over the amount your body burns in the same time period, one will gain a pound of body fat. So assuming the soda consumed is in excess of the body's maintenance calorie level, that's 18+ pounds of body fat gained per year. For a beverage. That's pretty disgusting, and I'm 100% certain that soda played a major, starring role in my former self's obesity.

Obesity in America has become a public health crisis. In 1998, the medical costs associated with overweightitude and obesity reached $78.5 billion, or over 9% of total U.S. healthcare expenditures. (I'll provide a 12-pack of the fabulous, zero-calorie Vanilla Coke Zero to the author of the comment featuring the best one-word noun version of "overweight"). Tack on ten years of inflation and ten more years of the horrific American high-fructose-corn-syrup-partially-hydrogenated-soybean-oil diet, and you can see where we are now. Something urgently needs to be done to mitigate a problem that has reached critical mass (pun intended this time).

New York Governor David Paterson has proposed a state budget that includes what is essentially an 18% sin tax on soft drinks and other sugary beverages. Nicholas Kristof writes in today's New York Times:


Let’s break for a quiz: What was the biggest health care breakthrough in the last 40 years in the United States? Heart bypasses? CAT scans and M.R.I.’s? New cancer treatments?

No, it was the cigarette tax. Every 10 percent price increase on cigarettes reduced sales by about 3 percent over all, and 7 percent among teenagers, according to the 2005 book “Prescription for a Healthy Nation.” Just the 1983 increase in the federal tax on cigarettes saved 40,000 lives per year.

In effect, the most promising cure for lung cancer didn’t emerge from a medical research lab but from money-grubbing politicians. Likewise, the best cure for obesity may turn out to be not a pill but a tax.



My first instinct was to think that this tax was a ridiculous money grab by a politician in a time of economic crisis, but the more I think about it, the more I think it is sound public policy. One legitimate role of government in a capitalist society, no matter your ideology, is to mitigate externalities - the costs borne by entities besides those directly involved in a transaction. Excessive consumption of this stuff doesn't just affect the consumer and the producer; we all share in the cost via higher insurance premiums.

Is it perfect? Of course not. For one thing, diet sodas aren't great for you, either, but at least they don't directly contribute to obesity. And why, as Kristof writes, is there no "Twinkie Tax" to go along with it? And I'm sure I'm sure Coke and Pepsi are going to fight this tax tooth and nail. Regardless, I am hopeful that this sort of innovative nutrition legislation (not the first to come out of New York) will at least get substantive conversations going at the national level and have a meaningful, positive impact on our consumption society.

Update!

CNN just posted an editorial piece directly from Governor Paterson regarding his proposed tax. An excerpt:

In June, New York state raised the state cigarette tax an additional $1.25. According to the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, this increase alone will prevent more than 243,000 kids from smoking, save more than 37,000 lives and produce more than $5 billion in health care savings.

These taxes may be unpopular, but their benefits are undeniable. Last month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that, for the first time in generations, fewer than 20 percent of Americans smoked. Lung cancer rates have finally begun to decline. As a result, we are all healthier.

Just as the cigarette tax has helped reduce the number of smokers and smoking-related deaths, a tax on highly caloric, non-nutritional beverages can help reduce the prevalence of obesity.

16 comments:

Paul Dalton said...

I think this is a great idea. Obesity is a serioous public health problem. Pay on the front end with a tax or on the back end with increased health care costs, pain, and suffering. Once your good health is gone, you can't get it back. Diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea, osteo arhritis etc. Every health care provider in the US sees patients every day with obesity related illnesses.

Stephanie said...

My husband had an experience similar to yours. We found out he has high cholesterol when I was pregnant with #2, so we changed our diet: whole grains, low fat, less sugar. He dropped 40 pounds in a month (and he didn't have much to lose. He was 6'2" and 200 lbs and is now about 160 lbs.) Several people at church asked if he had cancer.

After that dramatic diet change, what happened to his wife, you might ask? I gained 5 lbs less in that pregnancy than in my first and lost all the baby weight. But, 7 years later (and two more kids), he's still at 160 and I've put on a few more pounds. I swear, it is so incredibly unfair how much easier it is for men to lose weight than women - just ask ANY couple who is trying to lose weight together. (Any my husband was never even trying to lose weight! Just trying to put healthier stuff in his body)

We don't really drink soda in our family. We have never bought it to drink at home. For a while there, we purchased it when we ate out (once a week), but now we all have water (even the kids). If we do occassionally have a soda, we can split a can between 3 of us easy. It is just so sweet it is almost sickening.

I think you have made a really good case. The libertarian in me says, "Let people drink whatever they want", but at the point that personal decisions are imposing a cost on society (other individuals), I think the government does have a right to do something. This seems like a pretty good solution. It doesn't actually prohibit soda - just creates a disincentive.

I might have already mentioned this, but I get grossed out going to the grocery store. Walking down aisle after aisle of processed food and then watching people with their carts full of soda, chips, cookies. All that money and calories spent on garbage. It literally makes me ill sometimes. (That said, I do admit that my kids eat A LOT more sugar than I ever thought I would allow them to.)

Scott Hinrichs said...

Congratulations on the weight loss and the healthier lifestyle. Almost two decades ago I shifted to a more D&C 89 style diet and dropped 60 lbs. I have kept most of that off since then, but it has required constant work. Unlike Stephanie's experience, my lovely wife has never had the weight problem I have had (even from my birth).

Still, I find it quite surprising, but also quite common, that people that adopt a healthier lifestyle through exercising liberty and personal choice would then turn around and suggest using coercion to force others to follow suit. There was this guy in the pre-earth life that also thought that forcing people to do the 'right' thing would be beneficial. But somehow, every one of us voted against that plan.

Moreover, there is an argument to be made that it is less than moral for government to become dependent on revenues from behaviors it considers unproductive/sinful/anti-social. It creates a perverse incentive for government — one of the least efficient users of resources — to protect its revenue stream, being cautious not to kill the goose that lays the golden egg by jacking the tax penalty too high.

It is also worthy to note that a number of experts have questioned the study cited in support of higher tobacco taxes. The study does not actually prove a causative relationship, but rather a casual (coincidental) relationship. Other studies show that tobacco use rates are much more tightly tied to social acceptance than to tax rates.

High tax rates on tobacco have never produced the kind of government revenues projected. Why? Because they have resulted in a substantial black market for getting tobacco products from entities that charge lower tax rates (like the Native American reservations). New York, in particular, has had a massive problem with this, since other lower tax states are quite close to its population centers. The state responds to beefing up law enforcement to interdict 'illegal' out-of-state tobacco shipments, thus, spending much of the new revenue on an activity that only exists due to the high tax rates. The soda tax would work the same way.

Government coercion is a tool that we should be loath to use and that should be applied with great caution, because it can easily be employed to promote any 'common good' perceived by whichever faction happens to be in charge at any given moment. There is already a movement afoot to strip nonprofit organizations (i.e. churches) of their tax exempt status if they fail to support certain cultural agendas. If the LDS Church loses its tax exempt status for supporting efforts such as California's Proposition 8, you will soon find out who is truly committed to the principle of tithing and who is not.

Using tax policy for social engineering purposes is a horribly slippery slope that will (not may) eventually be used to harm those that support its use for policies of which they approve. Eventually it will be used to support policies of which they strongly disapprove. You can take that to the bank. We fool ourselves if we don't think that coercive tax policy will be used capriciously in a way that harms us.

What is the next 'common good' that will be promoted via tax policy? PETA and its fellow travelers want hefty taxes on meat and animal products. Some want high taxes on anything that is not 'organic.' Others are promoting higher taxes for those that don't use xeriscape landscaping in their yards. Soon we will all be marching lock step and turning in our neighbors that dare to sneak a bite of ice cream.

One of the problems of our current public-private socialized heath system is that it substantially reduces accountability for individual health choices. Then again, turning away coronary patients because they smoke or used to smoke would be considered too cruel. But if we went to more of a catastrophic insurance model (paying for most ordinarily expected services out of pocket), the market would soon start to convey the message that there is a significantly higher cost to poor health choices much more efficiently than any tax policy could ever hope to.

I like to remember that "... the Spirit of God, which is also the spirit of freedom ..." (Alma 61:15) should be our guide as we consider public policy.

Stephanie said...

Unlike Stephanie's experience, my lovely wife has never had the weight problem I have had (even from my birth).

Honey, I'm a size 6. I would venture to say my husband thinks he has a "lovely wife", too. I've gained 5 extra pounds with the last two kids and am having a hard time losing it.

I agree that we need to go to a catastrophe model of insurance. My proposal is here.

I am getting tired of bearing the burden of others' poor choices. You make a good point, Reach Upward. I was looking at it from the perspective that I HAVE to bear the burden because I am anticipating that our country will go to a more universal model of healthcare. To me, the one form of government involvement would necessesitate another form to protect me from the first! However, government just staying out in the first place and not forcing me to pay for the obesity of others would be an even better choice. It is just too bad that I don't see it happening in the near future.

Another issue at play here is marketing. I think we've had a thread on that before? How our food choices have been influenced by those marketing their sugary, fatty, processed foods? Many people don't seem to understand the difference between white bread and 100% whole wheat bread. Or realize that they are feeding their kids empty calories in a lot of breakfast cereals. I'm not entirely sure how to solve that, but I think that a lot of people are acting out of ignorance more than anything.

Stephanie said...

Reach Upward's point extends beyond smoking and obesity. What about STD's? STD's among young people (because of sexual activity) are rising. It seems that a lot of young people are accepting STD's as just a part of life - of growing up. Should I be responsible to pay for the health care for all of that, too? I doubt there is any chance we will ever see any discouragement of sexual activity coming from liberals - just more encouragement of condoms, which doesn't seem to be doing much for the STD epidemic.

So, anyways, Reach Upward, you have changed me mind. I think I'll go back to my libertarian ways on this one. Society does not need to bear the burden of obesity if the health care system changes so that people are financially responsible for their own choices.

The Wizzle said...

I am all over the catastrophic health insurance model. I think costs would go down dramatically if providers didn't have to mess with all the paperwork and nonsense involved in the insurance process for more routine, preventative-type care.

Until that happens (ha!) I'm with David and Stephanie. My initial reaction was "hey! No way!" on this soda tax, not least because I think diet soda is pretty awful too. But the more I got thinking about it, the more it seemed analagous to other steps that have been taken, such as the cigarette tax as noted by the article. Since I'm currently helping foot the bill for our dreadful health as a nation, I'd like some incentives for people to make more healthful choices.

I am a big proponent of preventative care - of avoiding health problems before they become problems - and while this tax isn't exactly what I'm usually thinking of, it does seem to have potential for that effect. I guess we'll see.

And I get the whole slippery slope argument. In fact, this is already sort of snowballing - the cigarette tax, NY's trans-fat banning, now the soda tax. But the war in heaven and life on earth are not the same thing, and they are not run the same way. There are laws - we don't just sort of trust people not to murder or steal. Drinking soda is not the same thing, but there are forces behind the soda "epidemic" if you will beyond just people's free choice to drink it. If they can sell their souls to market it to the detriment of our collective health, then I'm not so sure I mind a little disincentive in the other direction.

Stephanie said...

Here's a real-life example of the people footing the care for STD's. In Texas, Governor Rick Perry signed into law that all young girls are required to have the Gardisil vaccine - a vaccine to prevent a type of cervical cancer you can get from an STD. That doesn't mean that every young girl necessarily has to have the vaccine (you can opt out), but it does pave the way for the government to pay for those vaccines for anyone who cannot. So, as a taxpayer, I am paying for young girls to get a vaccine against an STD. I am none too happy about it.

Stephanie said...

Sorry, it's Gardasil.

Scott Hinrichs said...

Stephanie, I'm sorry if my comment suggested that you were anything other than lovely. It's just that you mentioned that for many couples, the man loses weight more easily than the woman. My family's genetics just happen to work differently on that point.

Stephanie said...

I probably took that too personally, Reach Upward. My family definitely has the heavier genes than my husband's. I bet my brothers would say the same thing as you - that it is easier for their wives to lose weight than them. Curse those genes.

The Faithful Dissident said...

"So, as a taxpayer, I am paying for young girls to get a vaccine against an STD. I am none too happy about it."

Not all STD's are spread by horny teenagers who have consensual, illicit sex. Some are also spread by rape, particularly date rape, which is a fairly common occurrence. Every girl and woman may be raped at some time in their lives. You can give them the morning after pill or give them antiviral drugs against AIDS, but one the rape has been committed, it may be too late to stop the spread of HPV, which is linked to cervical cancer.

But let's assume that 99.9% of those who get the vaccine are simply teenagers sleeping around. We all did foolish things in our youth. Wouldn't it be sad if our actions -- particularly if we never knew better -- resulted in our developing cancer later on in life?

Although almost all cases of cervical cancer seem to be connected to HPV, HPV has many strains and they are not just transmitted sexually. So, even virgins can have HPV and cervical cancer. The vaccine is not effective against all strains. If you've ever had a cold sore, you have a strain of the herpes virus.

I look at this not as paying for teenagers to not get an STD, but an option that may help to prevent cancer later on in life. If there was such a thing for smokers, I'd support it as well. Of course I think that young kids who take up smoking these days are idiotic, but it would be a shame to see them die of lung cancer later in life because of their juvenile stupidity.

I'm not exactly sure how much the cigarette tax is in Norway, but it's very hefty. Same with alcohol. A lifetime smoker will have easily smoked away a house or several cars because of the price of cigarettes. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them contribute more via cigarette tax than they use up through medical treatment. I work in a nursing home and few smokers live long enough to make it there, so that's also saving the state money if you want to look at it that way.

But smokers are addicts. They will pay anything to smoke. I think the only thing that has put a real dent in smoking statistics has been the smoking ban in all restaurants, bars, and public buildings. Most people start smoking in social settings in bars and such, and now that they can't smoke at the bar, fewer are starting to smoke.

Steve said...

Linking fatty foods to STDs, PETA, and the war in Heaven? Man, this post has gone through some serious thread-jacking!

Getting back to the original point, one thing I haven't seen mentioned is that fatty, processed, unhealthy foods are disproportionately consumed by poor people. Healthy, organic food is generally way more expensive. What I'd like to see in addition to a fat tax is a sales tax cut or elimination on healthy food to encourage more consumption by poor people. If you raise taxes on fatty foods but poor people can't afford healthy foods, you've really placed poor people in a bind.

Of course this gets into another sticky issue. Some people (read: libertarians and anti-government types) might have a difficult time letting the government decide which food is healthy and which isn't. What to do?

Stephanie said...

Is food actually taxed? Groceries (excluding those that fall into the "convenience" category) generally carry no sales tax (at least not in any of the states I have lived in).

Scott B. said...

You wrote:

"...the more I think about it, the more I think it is sound public policy. One legitimate role of government in a capitalist society, no matter your ideology, is to mitigate externalities - the costs borne by entities besides those directly involved in a transaction. Excessive consumption of this stuff doesn't just affect the consumer and the producer; we all share in the cost via higher insurance premiums."

Me thinks that's a very suspect conclusion ("sound policy") you've come to, and a bit tricky in that
you've stated a highly objectionable opinion as a fact. (Hopefully you're not offended by a complete stranger completely disagreeing with you...I only recently came across this blog, and thus I don't really know the tone here). As an economist, I can state with some degree of certainty that the role of government in mitigating externalities is HIGHLY debatable. The fact that government controls can, in certain circumstances, force firms and consumers to internalize external effects is not synonymous to "a legitimate role" for governments.

Moreover, the circumstances in which govt is able to effectively impose such controls are limited to those instances in which the govt has superior information and proper incentives. In the case at hand, it has neither.

Is the proposed tax equivalent to the actual external cost of obesity? How was it measured? What market research leads you to believe that the proposed tax will exactly undo the damage external
obesity costs impose on society? Because the answer to those questions is a big, fat, "I don't know", it is clear that this tax proposal is NOT based on a superior market information and has little to no possibility of efficiently internalizing
the external costs. There goes our justification.

What about incentives then? Well, who proposed this tax? A mixture of economists, health care professionals, industry experts, and fat people who all gave their input on what level of taxation would result in an efficient consumption of Chunky Monkey? No...it was a...politician!!! And what do politicians love (follow the incentives here!)? That's right--it's TAX REVENUE!!! There is a serious perversion of incentives here (economists use the term "perverse" to mean "outta whack") for the people proposing the tax--as such, it is almost guaranteed, no matter what % they ultimately decide upon, to be too high cuz, like all goods, more is better--esp govt + tax revenue.

The real death blow to your "sound policy" conclusion, however, is that there is a massive economic chasm between demand for cigarettes
and demand for sugary beverages. Cigarettes are among the most price-inelastic goods which are legally for sale, because
there are essentially no legal substitutes and they're addictive. Policy makers love targeting them for tax increases, because they get to say they're saving lives, when in reality they're just filling public coffers at the expense of people who can't quit.

However, (I'm almost done, I promise) you can't tax everything that a fat person wants to consume without ALSO hurting everyone else--you're doing all consumers harm when you levy a tax on sugary drinks, even if some are hurt more than others. Similarly, unlike cigarettes, fatties can get their *cookies* from many other sources: chips, candy, chocolate milk, beer, etc...Because "thirst" is not the issue, substitutes abound.

In sum, this tax will do the following:
1. Nothing to help fatties get less fat
2. Hurt the sugary-beverage industry
3. Hurt all consumers by making them pay more for the same product
4. Benefit non-sugary-beverage food makers who will welcome the fatties seeking comfort with open arms.

Whew!

Stephanie said...

Welcome, Scott! I'd love to hear more input from an economist on political issues.

Scott B. said...

Ask and ye shall receive! Just don't get mad at me if (read: when) I disagree. :)

I'd love any of your input on my issues, too: Socioeconomic Barriers are preventing me from magnifying my calling.